{"id":140529,"date":"2024-03-15T07:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-03-15T06:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/e3magpmp.greatsolution.dev\/?p=140529"},"modified":"2024-03-18T13:31:33","modified_gmt":"2024-03-18T12:31:33","slug":"indirect-sap-data-and-ai-use","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/e3magpmp.greatsolution.dev\/en\/indirect-sap-data-and-ai-use\/","title":{"rendered":"Indirect Use of SAP Data and AI"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I must confess that my wife has often reprimanded me in this regard: when it comes to contracts, legal issues and stumbling blocks, general terms and conditions and unfair competition, I am naive, clueless, disoriented\u2014but also disinterested. I have my wife, who is extremely conscientious and meticulous, and I have our chief legal advisor. However, in the dawning age of AI, and with an SAP-like history of indirect use, I will have to change my defensive attitude toward all things legal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Anyone who has been paying attention to the AI discourse over the past few months can already see the greed for data and the challenges of sustainable learning. LLMs (Large Language Models) are a computer science construct that is capable of learning in the sense of statistical functions and algorithms, but of course not in the sense of understanding. This leads to an immense hunger for data; the more data a system receives, the smarter it becomes.<\/p><div class=\"great-fullsize-content-es\" style=\"margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;text-align: center;\" id=\"great-1218345851\"><a href=\"https:\/\/e3magpmp.greatsolution.dev\/es\/kit-de-medios\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"nl_werbung_800x100_es\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/e3magpmp.greatsolution.dev\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/nl_werbung_800x100_es.jpg\" alt=\"\"  srcset=\"https:\/\/e3magpmp.greatsolution.dev\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/nl_werbung_800x100_es.jpg 800w, https:\/\/e3magpmp.greatsolution.dev\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/nl_werbung_800x100_es-400x50.jpg 400w, https:\/\/e3magpmp.greatsolution.dev\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/nl_werbung_800x100_es-768x96.jpg 768w, https:\/\/e3magpmp.greatsolution.dev\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/nl_werbung_800x100_es-100x13.jpg 100w, 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This combination sounds tempting\u2014but what about privacy and intellectual property? The business processes of an ECC or S\/4 were created by customizing and modifying SAP customers. Do I want an LLM trained in our business processes to give clever answers to a competitor?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Of course, this selfish approach flies in the face of any open source idea, but the processes contain not only our IP, but also algorithms and data from partners, customers, and suppliers. Salesforce added powerful AI capabilities to its successful CRM a few years ago. How did they do it? Anyone can read about it in Salesforce's T&amp;Cs. There, the cloud provider secures the right to access all data in an anonymized (!?) manner for the purpose of training an AI model. This is not an isolated case: the HCM provider Workday functions in a similar way. The \u201cstupid\u201d computer has to learn somehow, right?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In addition to GDPR, IP, and open source, the classic SAP customer is also confronted with the issue of indirect use. Jonas Andrulis' vision can only succeed if data and algorithms are freely exchanged between ECC or S\/4, Signavio and the Aleph Alpha LLM. If SAP would keep the indirect usage fee scheme, every ERP LLM would be unaffordable. If SAP were to suspend indirect usage for LLMs, it would set a precedent for other AI applications. The fact is that SAP has shot itself in the foot on the issue of indirect use, which could have disastrous consequences in the age of AI.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to media reports from the Technology Days conference in Hamburg, held by the DSAG (German Speaking SAP User Group), SAP is aware of this dilemma. There is an AI vision at SAP, but how it will be realized is written in the stars. Is SAP too small for the mammoth topic of AI? At the moment, it does not look very promising: SAP's investments in artificial intelligence, directly or indirectly in Aleph Alpha, are marginal compared to the sums at Microsoft, Meta, Amazon, and Google. From a European perspective, we often misjudge the balance of power. I took the liberty of copying a chart from Manager Magazine on different companies\u2019 estimated value.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure data-wp-context=\"{&quot;imageId&quot;:&quot;69e50bec245a0&quot;}\" data-wp-interactive=\"core\/image\" class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized wp-lightbox-container\" data-block-type=\"core\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"894\" height=\"722\" data-wp-class--hide=\"state.isContentHidden\" data-wp-class--show=\"state.isContentVisible\" data-wp-init=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on-async--click=\"actions.showLightbox\" data-wp-on-async--load=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on-async-window--resize=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" src=\"http:\/\/e3magpmp.greatsolution.dev\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Bild1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-140530\" style=\"width:475px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/e3magpmp.greatsolution.dev\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Bild1.png 894w, https:\/\/e3magpmp.greatsolution.dev\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Bild1-400x323.png 400w, https:\/\/e3magpmp.greatsolution.dev\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Bild1-768x620.png 768w, https:\/\/e3magpmp.greatsolution.dev\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Bild1-100x81.png 100w, https:\/\/e3magpmp.greatsolution.dev\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Bild1-480x388.png 480w, https:\/\/e3magpmp.greatsolution.dev\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Bild1-640x517.png 640w, https:\/\/e3magpmp.greatsolution.dev\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Bild1-720x581.png 720w, https:\/\/e3magpmp.greatsolution.dev\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Bild1-15x12.png 15w, https:\/\/e3magpmp.greatsolution.dev\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Bild1-600x485.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 894px) 100vw, 894px\" \/><button\n\t\t\tclass=\"lightbox-trigger\"\n\t\t\ttype=\"button\"\n\t\t\taria-haspopup=\"dialog\"\n\t\t\taria-label=\"Enlarge\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-init=\"callbacks.initTriggerButton\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-on-async--click=\"actions.showLightbox\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--right=\"state.imageButtonRight\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--top=\"state.imageButtonTop\"\n\t\t>\n\t\t\t<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"12\" height=\"12\" fill=\"none\" viewbox=\"0 0 12 12\">\n\t\t\t\t<path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M2 0a2 2 0 0 0-2 2v2h1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 1 .5-.5h2V0H2Zm2 10.5H2a.5.5 0 0 1-.5-.5V8H0v2a2 2 0 0 0 2 2h2v-1.5ZM8 12v-1.5h2a.5.5 0 0 0 .5-.5V8H12v2a2 2 0 0 1-2 2H8Zm2-12a2 2 0 0 1 2 2v2h-1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 0-.5-.5H8V0h2Z\" \/>\n\t\t\t<\/svg>\n\t\t<\/button><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><em>The most valuable companies in the world\u2014Europe and Germany by market capitalization\u2014in trillions of dollars.<br>As of January 30, 2024. 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